captioning made possible by johnson & johnson where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> osgood: good morning, i'm charles osgood this is "sunday morning." he was chosen broadcast a little differently with concert violinist on the most treasured violin. as music in our cover story tracy smith will tell us why

more young women are going public with counts of sexual assault on campus. then on to string theory, with dean reynolds a lot more of that great strad you just heard. ♪ >> pay no attention to the cost, this violin did sell for $16 million. listen to the glorious sound. it's the sound that century's old still violin'ss swear it's the best. >> you are feeling vibes from 300 years ago. >> absolutely. 273 to be exact. >> a small wooden box with an enduring mystique. later on "sunday morning." >> the barefoot contessa isn't really a countess doesn't diminish the enthusiasm of fans for her cooking show.

>> with nine he cookbooks and award winning tv show. >> how easy is that. >> ina gart en, better known as the barefoot contessa is considered royalty. her first job was far from the kitchen. >> by day you're working -- still hawks me laugh. >> breakfast with the barefoot contessa. >> osgood: pen and seller are magicians with attitude and occasional circular saw. lee cowan with some questions to answer. >> a metal rod in place that stops the saw blade from going down -- >> odd couple of magic. not only in the way they do tricks. >> actually she's not okay.

>> but yes. >> it runs through what you do. >> we try to do a show that is as honest as we possibly can on the subject. >> penn and teller on truth and tricks. later on "sunday morning." >> osgood: for scientists investigating a place of ancient mystery, the owner of the daily news rock on. mark phillips will rock among the stones of stonehenge. >> it's a gigantic time machine that's been measuring time for more than 4,000 years. and that's been studied for centuries. but it's still revealing new secrets. modern technology seeing things that have never been seen before. >> a problem that when you present it with more information -- >> stonehenge, old stones, new tricks.

coming up on "sunday morning." >> osgood: anthony mason talks to ayad akhtar. steve hartman tells us how young girl's love for her father has taken flight. first, headlines for this sunday morning the 25th of january 2015. radical islamic group isis appears to have beheaded one of the two japanese nationals they have been holding hostage. holly williams halls the latest. >> the image posted online appears to show a japanese journal list holding a photo of his murdered partner. too gruesome. isis threatened to kill both and government handed over a $200 million ransom within 72 hours. the japanese government declined

to say whether it would consider paying. kenji goto hoped it would and appears to be extremists -- this is first time that isis has publicly demanded ransom money. the group is believed to have made $20 million from its trade in hostages last year alone. but an audio recording accompanying the image which claimed is the voice of kenji goto said that isis is now willing to swap him not for money but for failed female suicide bomber being held in a priss son in jordan. for "sunday morning," this is holly williams in istanbul. >> osgood: president obama in india has condemned the brutal murder of the japanese hostage. eastern ukraine russian-backed rebels shelled the port city

killing at least 30 people. united states has denounced that attack. chicago cubs star ernie banks one of the most beloved players in history of major league baseball has died. banks was hall of famer two-time national league most valuable player earn auto banks was 83. speaking of memories, pioneering radio and television host joe franklin took his audiences down memory lane and some say helped to create the talk show format. he'd been suffering from cancer and has died. joe franklin was 88. impromptu gathering of reporters, bill belichick yesterday denied his team tried to compromise in his words the integrity of the game by using under inflated footballs at last sunday's conference championship. here is today's weather. snow and rain is expected in the midwest. cold in the northeast. sunny most everywhere else.

the week ahead cold in most places with major snowstorm expected in the northeast. just 54 days until spring. ♪ the sound of classic violin is coming up. >> osgood: next, speaking out about assaults on call pus. >> how often do you think about what happened that night?

>> osgood: the association of american universities plans to question thousands of college students this spring about the problem of sexual assault on campus. as we're about to hear it's complicated. finding a fair system of dealing with it isn't simple either. our cover story reported by tracy smith. >> if you want to see what resilience looks like, here are a few pictures. >> i started this project thinking maybe be ten people involved. and suddenly it exploded. >> these women say they are all victims of sexual assault. they prefer the term "survivors." on the signs the words that still haunt them. >> i tell them to write down whatever they want to let go of the most.

>> photographer grace brown came up with the idea three years ago to give the women a moment of closure captured forever in a photo. >> i wanted something that would stick. >> and those words -- they stick. >> it looks like she won't run out of subjects any time soon. government figures show that women between the ages of 18 and 24 are the most likely targets of rape and sexual assault. exact numbers are hard to come by since many of these cases go unreported but campus rape has become an all too frequent news story. >> fraternity and sorority activity at university of virginia are suspended until the spring semester. >> now discredited article in "rolling stone" the university of virginia with a tale of alleged gang rape at fra tesh tee party. much has been called in to question, it's helped fuel national conversation about sexual assault on campus.

the white house joined in with the "it's on us" campaign. >> take the pledge. >> bad news is that probably more of it because there is a much different sexual climate on campuses than there was 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago. >> you think lot of this is -- it's complicated. that's why you can't hope to find justice in every case. but you can do try to put systems that allow justice to occur. >> this is difficult difficult stuff. >> that's putting it mildly. as we mentioned a lot of sexual assaults are never reported and victims who do come forward aren't always comfortable going to police. so in many cases it's up to the school to sort out what happened and how to handle it. how often do you think about what happened that night? >> i think about it every day. >> sarah, now a senior at the

university of colorado boulder says she was sexually assaulted by a fellow student in february 201. >> frustrating. >> do you remember details of the night? >> yes. >> did you say no? >> yes. >> you say that emphatically. why do you say that. >> i told him to stop. i told him i didn't want to do it multiple times. >> yet. >> he took advantage of me. >> in your heart of hearts do you think he realized what he was doing was wrong? >> absolutely not. >> no? >> the way he acted i feel like he felt he was entitled to my body. >> entitled. she says her assailant who did not respond to our repeated calls and e-mails was a friend from the school's climbing club. that in the hours before the alleged assault they both been drinking. >> i would have fought back a lot more. i know that did i what i could have in the moment. >> you don't blame yourself? >> absolutely not.

no. i did what i could at that moment. >> what do you mean? >> now because i'm sober and coherent i could fight. because i was swimming in intoxication it was difficult. there was no intimacy involved at all. i had my shirt on the entire time. not intimate at all. very much straight sex. rape is rape. that's what it was. wasn't even sex. the morning after i feel like -- i asked him to come meet me outside in a public, lit place i said i was not comfort wobble a what happened. i did not consent to this his response was, that i should just forget about it and get over it. >> but she didn't get over it. she went to the police they told her there wasn't enough evidence to proceed. the school did find her a sail ant guilty of nonconsensual sex and suspended him. took the university a month to actually kick him off campus,

sarah gilchriese found a different way to get the school's attention. it turns out the same title 9:00 language that also bans sexual harassment at school. >> what made the difference of survivors. >> new york senator kiir sten gill grand. >> a lot of these young women are using title ix to hold the college accountable. >> colleges are responsible for a safe environment. are responsible under title ix make sure every kid at that campus can get a good education. and the failing because they're not taking sexual assault and rape as the crime that it is not holding them accountable do not feel safe. they are obligated to change how they do business. >> the university of colorado builder is one of nearly 100 colleges and universities now under investigation for possible violations of title ix.

in sarah's case the school denied liability but paid her the equivalent of a year's tuition, $32,500. is that an admission that you mishandled her case? >> i can't talk about any individual case because of confidentiality. >> valerie simon the title ix coordinator. >> we want to make sure for her case, any case, before, now coming up is we want to do everything we can to eliminate sexual assault on this campus, that is my mission. >> the schools have even taken page from the white house and made its own "it's on us" video. >> it's on us. >> it's on us. >> but now cu boulder facing another title ix complaint from a male student who says the school unfairly convicted him of sexual assault. new york attorney andrew miltenberg represents hill and more than two dozen other men

from 15 states whom he says were victims of a rush to judgment. do you think there's been over correction? >> i think it's -- things are proceeding too fast and without any real protections. >> are you saying that most of these young men are presumed guilty even before the process starts? >> that is exactly what i am saying. >> to help avoid trouble in the first place california's new affirmative consent law says men and women both have to give a clear, sober yes before anything can happen. and schools like ohio state university are posting messages like these online and on campus. for his clients andrew has a message of his own. >> parents constantly ask me, what should i tell my son to do when he's at college? >> what do you say? >> don't be alone in a room with a young lady. >> don't want to hold innocent young man accountable for a crime he didn't commit any more

than we want a rape victim to not have place to report that crime. we don't want injustice on either end. >> do you think there is over correction? >> not at all. i think long way to go. >> for gillibrand the solution is a bill season ors r orsed with several republicans among other things it would require colleges to make it easier for victims to come forward. and fine schools that didn't comply. >> i believe -- this year he? >> if that happens maybe students will have a little more faith in their schools. maybe sarah gilchriese will feel like thee made a difference and maybe grace brown won't have people lining up for portraits. >> the amount of people who are starting to talk about sexual assault all of these people whether in my personal life or people in general are sort of coming out of the woodwork saying, this needs to stop.

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for this was the day that journalist nellie bly of the new york world completed a trip around the world. the 25-year-old bly had set out alone from new jersey the previous november to try to better the record of phileas fogg, the fictional hero of jules vern's 187 novel "around the world in 80 days." by steam ship and train bly traveled eastward sending back brief reports to her world readers when she could. despite occasional setbacks, bly returned in triumph in 72 days defeating the fogg's record by full eight days. the new york world was so thrilled that even published a round the world with nellie bly board game. nellie bly died in 1922 at just 57 years of age but popular

fascination with circling the world continues. that fascination took epic form in the 1956 film called, what else "around the world in 80 days" starring david niven as phileas fogg. produced by elizabeth taylor's third husband the film combined race against teamster rewith wide screen travel log. real life okay plushment has been forgotten she was honored by the u.s. postal series with a stamp in 2002. by land and sea she did not fly. she circled the world did nellie bly. she more than out did phileas fogg. a feat that left the world agog.

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>> osgood: behold the stradivarius, considered to be the last violin ever made by the great man who died in 1737. he was the master of musical string theory known as ever done it better. >> listen to the violin. ♪ as the sound wafts across lake austin deep in the heart of texas, it is so much more than a mere meeting of bow and string, there's a kind of physiological chain reaction that starts in your ears, sends shivers down

your spine and tickles your toes. especially when it is the work of master musician and concert violin's anne akiko meyers. >> each violin to me is like a different living soul. they each have their own personalities and you're instilling your personality in to this piece of wood that is very much alive. ♪ >> this isn't just any violin. we're right in front of the most expensive violin in the world. >> yes. >> you say that almost

mournfully, like oh, shucks. >> well, i mean it's not in a museum it's incredible that it's in front of us. >> this is a $16 million del jesu, an instrument made in 1741 by a man named guarneri del jesu in the small italian town. but he wasn't the only luthier in cremona. antonio stradivari was perfecting his violins there at the same time. meyers has a stradivarius too once belonging to the king of spain. so you're feeling vibes from 300 years ago? >> absolutely. absolutely. 273 to be exact. >> the unwaivering design of the

instrument especially its arched shape and the thickness of the wood are what give a violin its sound. >> it's mind boggling to think that 18 inches of wood made in 1700 can produce such an incredible glorious sound. >> how long does it take to you turn out a violin? >> about 80 hours. maybe a hundred. >> michael darnton's violins are brand new. built in his shop in chicago's loop. violin making, he says, still follows the 18th century master plan. >> this is the form that he made violins on, this is the form that i make violins on. >> stefan hersh is darnton's

partner. >> incredibly efficient amplifiers. little box like this as light as it is, it doesn't weigh much at all it can fill 3,000 feet hall. everybody can hear it. all have been modified for modern use. >> reel flee. >> yes. >> but in the way that the strings are strung over the box. >> wait a minute, how do you -- am i the only one surprised to hear this, how do you modify a work of art? >> very carefully. >> the funny thing, though, is that while the del jesu and stradivarius are still considered the best ever made, a recent test of blindfolded violinists found they had a hard time distinguishing old from new. in fact a tested stradivarius was the least preferred while a brand new violin was top rated.

but its doubtful a new violin would have caused the same kind of sensation that the lipinksi violin did when it was stolen in armed robbery in milwaukee last year. edward flynn is the chief of police. was your first instinct to say something like, quick get our violin task force on this? >> my first instinct was oh, my god a stradivarius. >> made in 1715, this stradivarius is worth five to six million dollars and it was taken from frank almond, concert master for the milwaukee symphony. >> only thing i can compare it to is maybe watching one of your children get kidnapped or something. >> police recovered the violin from two suspects in a matter of days. >> what is so great about a stradivarius? >> to us, what's so great about the mona lisa. can't can't anybody paint that

again. >> i spent a lot of time with this. more time with this probably than anyone or anything else in my life. >> do you talk to it? >> no, i don't go that far. >> we don't know if anne akiko meyers talks to her violins but they certainly speak to her. and to us. >> it's got major kick and it's ballsy and it's gutsy and it's dark. and it has just a whole range of color that i can explore. so it makes me freer as a musician. ♪ >> osgood: still to come. the cutting edge magic of penn and teller. but first --

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>> osgood: rock on. words to live by for archaeologists studying that mystical wonder, stonehenge, in the english countryside.

documentary taken by smithsonian channel has been looking in to its mysteries. so has our mark phillips. >> it's always been about the sun. for more than 4,000 years the monument has stood like a giant sun dial marking the longest day of the year and the shortest. taking aim at the sun like a giant stone gunsight. yet stonehenge is also about mystery. the big stone circle is only the most obvious part of the site. lesser monuments some much older and most of them buried under the soil now stretch for miles across the landscape. >> increase in how people are willing to -- >> they're being looked at in a way that's never been possible before. using high definition ground penetrating radar and other magnetic and resistance sensitive survey equipment in what's being called, the hidden

landscapes project. a documentary team from the smithsonian channel has been following the archaeologists around. and using computer generated imagery it's been digitally reconstructing some of the monuments that have long since disappeared like this burial chamber built of wooden posts with timbered walls and covered with earth it redates stonehenge by centuries would have held the remains of about 50 bodies. henry chapman, an archaeologist from the university of birmingham england says the project produced more data than they know what to do with. >> it's sort of a sweet shop problem, that when you present it with loads of information kind of, so i want more. >> it is the mor-ish problem. >> yeah. >> and the new data has helped answer some old questions. like whether the giant stone circle now somewhat gap toothed was ever complete.

the digital probing and dry patches show that stonehenge was once in fact a full circle. >> we got series which showed us positions of some stones which we've never seen before at stonehenge. the position of stones here -- >> mark shows us how it looked. >> 19 here. and stone 20 here. >> almost a false understanding of the stonehenge because we haven't been able to see the whole picture. >> what kind of false understanding? how much of an understanding had we had? >> i think probably the most stunning one is probably the largest ones is the landscape and running quite across here.

>> miles. >> literally. goes right from both horizons. >> the new imagery shows what they called the greater cursus running like a huge ditch and mound in aeneas massive loop. they ever never sure what it contained or what it was for. the new gizmos revealed details never previously seen in the hundreds of years stonehenge has been studied. there were great pits and structures along its route all of them seem built in relation to the passage of the sun across the sky. in fact the ends of the cursus line up with the main monument and the sun at the winter and summer solstice. >> these were extremely primitive stone age cultures figured out the sun thing. >> i don't think we can see them

as that primitive, i mean they're farmers. of course they're going to be understanding when summer is, when winter is. different times of the year it's actually quite useful. >> a big clock? >> yeah. >> a really big clock. maybe the world's most famous one. it draws millions of visitors, including president obama when he dropped by last year. it's the size of the stone that impresses, the fact that the big up right ones were brought to this place for more than 30 miles away and some of the smaller ones brought from much further. and all of that before the builders had use of the wheel. stonehenge archaeologist and historian susan greaney spends a lot of time answering the one question that always comes up. how did they do it? >> one of the things that people say, well prehistoric people were unsophisticated and they were cave men.

no, they were building stonehenge. if they were building stonehenge they were very sophisticated people. stonehenge is unique. there's nothing like it in the entire world. there's no other lintel stone circle. tells huge amount of the sophistication of our prehistoric ancestors. >> whatever its technical wonders, stonehenge is also a spiritual place. some of the findings suggest ancient rituals including possibly human sacrifice, may have been carried out here. legends persist that the place was a ceremonial ground for druids despite the fact there's no evidence that the mystical cult that existed about 12,000 years ago was very here. that hasn't stopped modern day devoteees from coming back. the modern surveyors have discovered evidence of other activity. >> also imagine this in the

landscape there are festivals here in the '80s. so a lot of material, particularly in this area. little semi combustible little pieces. >> what they haven't found, though, is meaning. no machine can do that. >> elements to do with solar line that are alignments, marking time. it's almost certainly a temple but also has all these other sort of functions. so when we start saying, what's the mean go of stonehenge? how many reasons do you need? >> the technical survey increased appetite for more traditional archaeological study. now they have so many more places to dig. >> mystery lives on. >> absolutely. >> >> long may it live on. >> osgood: remind that you stonehenge empire is later today on the smithsonian channel.

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>> osgood: it happened this past week. the grounding of the skymall in flight catalog. some 25 years now skymall overred air travelers possibly giddg the altitude a chance to buy items they might think twice about if they were still back on land. consider the life size garden yeti statue, weighing in at 147 pounds, price of more than $2,250.

not to mention the pup step plus pet stairs for somewhat more affordable 39.99. this art deco peacock floor lamp was $449. and the singing gone lear for the back yard pool owner who truly has everything. sadly enough for the gone lear and his friends skymall's filed for bankruptly saying increased competition from on those on board electronic devices. many of the items skymall sold are still available on the internet. >> that is gorgeous. >> do we need to taste? >> osgood: ahead food for thought from the barefoot contessa. >> that smells amazing.

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c the barefoot contessa is a tv chef with the style that unlike many other cooking show goes down easy. as serene that altschul now shows us. >> your time starts now. >> in a culinary age filled with diehard competitions outlandish kitchen tools and crazy ingredients one person remains unfazed and unaffected. >> mustard chicken which is so delicious. >> easy and tasty recipes are what ina gart en, better known as the barefoot contess a is ale

about. people are drawn to these new trendy things and just see them and not interested. >> i'm really not. i'm interested in really good ingredients that you've cooked to enhance them and that you can serve to your family and friends in like half an hour. >> a wholesome attitude that draws millions to her award-winning show on the food network. and garten came out with her ninth cookbook, previous eight have all been best sellers. >> i'd like to thank you for all the inspiration that you gave me. >> i love you so much. >> thank you. >> your name is mentioned around our house every single day. >> ina has achieved a cult following. even liz lemon tina fey's character on "30 rock" fantasized about meeting the barefoot contess saw. >> hi neighbor. i have some white wine why don't you come over. >> i'm alive!

>> but being a food idol was not the life garten i am am midged. born ina rosenberg she grew up knowing nothing about cooking. >> did you spend any time in the kitchen? >> i think it's the reason why i'm a cook because i was never allowed in the kitchen. that was my mother's purview. she used to say it's my job to cook and your job to study. >> which she did majoring in economics at syracuse university. at age 20, she married jeffrey garten they met when she was 15. >> just everything you could dream of. here we are 50 years later i feel that much more. >> i make breakfast for him. >> he makes regular appearances on his show. >> makes the best. >> and played major role in ina's career. more on that later. in the 1970s after getting her

mbagarten became a nuclear energy budget analyst for the u.s. government. you heard right. so by day you're working in the white house on nuclear policy. >> still makes molar. >> it's funny. and by evening or weekends you were diving into julia child. >> i bought "mastering the art of french cooking" i would work through those two books. i taught myself how to cook. i should say julia child taught me how to look. >> one fateful day in 1978 while reading the classified section something caught her eye. >> a specialty food store for sale in a place i'd never been before, the hamptons. that's interesting. i went home that night i said, i have to do something different. nuclear energy policy is not me. >> i felt bad for ina because she was very unhappy. and i said, let's go look at it. never, ever dreaming -- >> you didn't tell me that.

>> against better judgment, garten took the plunge bought the tiny shop in long island called the barefoot contessa named after the 1954 movie. >> my parents were horrified. jeffrey said, do it. >> she poured her heart and soul in to the store. often working 12 hours a day to keep things afloat. >> i was exhausted but exhilarated. i would go home thinking, i have to go to sleep. i have to go to sleep. there's a chocolate cake that i need. i'd be back at the store. >> hard work paid off. >> even marcia stewart took notice. >> a cupcake one of the trademarks. coconut pound cake. >> those same cupcakes still stand the test of time. >> we have frosting that is cream cheese butter sugar i

actually add vanilla and almond extract. >> what i really like about your technique is you don't shy away from -- i really like that a lot. >> isn't it an icing delivery system, the coconut cupcake? >> today at 66 she has built a culinary temple in her barn devoted to her passion. >> this is the french section. i use them all the time section. >> a whole library filled with cookbooks. >> go back and forth. >> kitchen just for her show. a short walk from her house in easthampton. >> i can't believe i get up in the morning i leave my house, i walk to the barn i get to cook with my friends. one of the great gifts that you can give people to cook for them. >> right over here. >> over here? >> yeah. >> osgood: coming up. a message in a balloon.

>> osgood: a special reason that steve hartman can tell us about. >> earlier this month out of the clear blue sky. a small mylar balloon floated in to the parking lot of the local heroes restaurant in auburn, california. >> i found it right over here. i saw writing on it started reading it a little bit. oh my, gosh, this is so deep. >> the balloon was signed been a girl who lived 450 miles away in whittier, california. her name is ashlynn marracino. she's 16. although she was happy to learn someone found her balloon that restaurant was not her intended target. >> of a you ever let a balloon go and watch it? it really does look like it's going to heaven is. and i want him to know that i still love him and all that.

>> ashlynn meant that balloon for her father. scott marracino died of aneurysm in 2009 and ashlynn has been sending him messages on his birthday ever since. on this been region she wrote "deer dad, you have missed so much and i miss you. there's this guy i met bryant. he's really nice, funny and sweet. i've been playing softball for 11 years. i'm hoping you're helping me get those home runs. >> i wanted to share my accomplishments, my life i wanted to hell him what he missed out on. >> most importantly she wanted to apologize for all the times she didn't write. scott spent a few years in jail, for robbery. and during those years he sent ashlynn hundreds of letters and hand made cards. >> i never responded. >> you never answered him? >> never a real letter, no. >> even after he got out and turned his life around, sometimes she could still ignore

his phone calls including his very last one. >> he wanted to say i love you. >> how many of us go to bed at night with the same potential for regret. how many of us might one day be just this desperate for one last contact? fortunately for ashlynn she's pretty sure she got through this time. on the balloon she asked her dad for a sign and when someone somehow, found her note in the local heroes parking lot of all places, that was enough for her. >> just gave me faith and hope again and reassurance and it's pretty amazing. >> take it from an angel. >> osgood: still to come. >> isn't it awkward for you not to talk? >> it's awkward for someone who isn't going to answer any

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[ laughter ] >> it's "sunday morning" on cbs here again is charles osgood. >> osgood: penn and teller are magicians whose slight of hand is never intended to sleight the audience. lee cowan asked some questions and get some answers. >> las vegas strip is home to many a magical performance. >> good evening! we are penn and teller! >> but this show is magic of a different sort. >> fools more people than anyone else. i think we have more tricks per hour than i don't think just any magic show now or ever been.

the 7 of clubs sir. >> penn and teller have been doing magic for 40 years. have been headlining at the rio hotel and casino. they are as different in style as they are in stature. penn is tall and loud. >> i can do this. few magician use a nail gun in their act. teller on the other hand is short and quiet. in fact, he doesn't utter a word in character. which can make for a challenging conversation. is it awkward for you not to talk? it's awkward for me to do an interview with someone who isn't going to answer any questions. he did however agree to explain that later. at his hilltop home on the outskirts of town. >> not speaking is just about the most intimate thing that you

can do. in terms of, you felt like you had to speak. if we just stop and look at each other, gosh that gets intimate fast. that is what i feel when i'm on stage. >> penn and teller met in the mid 1970s teller, 66, high school latin teacher who did magic in his spare time. penn, seven years his junior went to clown college and became a juggler. >> we were carny trash we were street performers do any show we could get. >> they teamed up not because they liked each other but they needed each other. >> teller and i never got along. we never had a cuddly friendship. it was a very cold, calculated relationship where we thought we do better stuff together than we do separately. >> so it was matter of necessity.

>> turns out respect lasts longer than affection. >> opposites attract? >> it was. >> opposites i don't know about attract. >> not that their partnership didn't hit a few bumps over the last 40 years but weren't many. >> all of our real confrontations of unpleasantness was in the first two or three years. >> we never disagreed about anything personal, it was artistic stuff. but it's really personal. >> teller, who legally dropped his first name years ago surrounds himself with magic memorabilia and lot of books. >> this is kind ever leading in to my study. >> some disguising hidden passages. teller lives in colorful compound about two miles away spends most of his time in an office painted bright pink. >> all this stuff here, this was all set up for you.

right here. >> what brought this unlikely duo together was a shared approach to magic. >> something is happening that you know is different from what is true. pretty beautiful. and other magicians try to conceal that, our idea was to lead with that. lead with that. >> few of the techniques used by phony psychics. >> the performers say insult their audience by claiming positive possess real powers. >> the people who claim these powers are liars cheaters, swindlers, rip-offs the tricks themselves are evil, immoral and i know how to do them all. sawing ableman in to half. >> demystify magic, penn and teller reveal their secrets. >> a woman sawed in to halves right there. >> as with this magic show staple. >> the box is plenty of depth to conceal that part of her that's

no longer accounted for. >> think you got it all figured out. >> it's completely safe. a metal rod in place that stops the saw blade. >> until this happens. >> ah! >> she's okay. she's okay. >> people who believe this is true. >> actually she's not okay. >> people he who know this is tricks. we celebrate the fact that it's trickry, when do you that, you have to have wicked good tricks. >> the supreme court said we can do anything we want. >> penn and temper are well-known and find way in to the show. >> magic wand. >> making for some pretty provocative moments. >> the flag is gone, the bill of rights remains. >> other magicians are looking for a trick. find way to present it. we're kind of looking for an idea and a presentation find

trick that goes with it. >> magic is almost secondary in some ways. >> yes. although it's a really good way to say what we want to say. >> they pre moat new talent with tv shows like "wizard wars." and -- >> we were fooled. >> and constantly refining their own act. >> the cbs sunday morning? this is going to be one minute long gosh darn trick. >> one minute. >> rehearse new tricks for hours. every week. >> yolk,. >> they were trying to perfect getting humpty dumpty back in his crushed egg shell. >> make it right. some tricks take years to perfect. like this one.

>> it's a long bit of juggling with me, a ball, one piece of thread. that's all it is. no one on stage. there's no mechanisms in the ball. just a ball and a thread and me. >> simplicity gets to the heart of teller's love of magic. >> great line from "sundae in the park with george. i think of it it makes me tear up. look, i made a hat where there was never a hat. that just pretty much summarizes anybody who makes something artistic. the joy is there was something there that something was in my head is out there. >> are as fan friendly as they come. sometimes saying for an hour or more after each show to take pictures and sign autographs. >> i work hard. i try to do a good show. you want to have your picture taken with me, you want to meet

me, shake me hand. i'm honored. that's just simple. >> is that why you stay as long as you do? >> yes. they deserve that. >> after 40 years they fully intend to stay a good bit longer. how much longer do you think you guys will keep doing it? >> i fully intend, and i think teller does, too to die in office. we intend to be on stage when we suck. i wouldn't have it any other way. >> did you feel pride? >> difference of opinion. just ahead. how can power consumption in china

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akhtar. >> with his drama "disgraced" now on broadway, ayad akhtar has had three plays produced on the new york stage within a year. >> this is a dream come true. >> the "washington post" called the 44-year-old play write a dazzling new voice in american theater. "disgraced" which premiered in chicago three years ago put akhtar in the spotlight when it won the pulitzer prize. you're on broadway now? >> we never did the show for more than 100 people in chicago or london now 900 people a night. it's insane. >> all of akhtar's plays confront perhaps the most polarizing issue of the day.

>> you don't need to patronize me. >> the muslim experience in america. for a lot of people to see or hear the word muslim is not too dissimilar to hear the word cancer. that's something that you're up against as a play write? >> as a novelist, as wherever. yeah, i am. but what am i going to do about it? >> keep telling really great stories hopefully enough people catch on you're like, it's not about that. it's about something else. like being human. >> the main character in "disgraced," amir, is a pakistani american corporate lawyer trying to run from his muslim roots. >> it is like one very long hate mail letter to humanity. >> that is not true. >> but in hiding his identity he can't suppress his

bitterness. did you feel pride on september 11th? >> if i'm honest, yes. >> that's when a friendly dinner party disintegrates. >> we were finally winning. >> we? >> yes. you see i forgot which we i was. >> you're an american. >> it's tribal. it's in the blood. >> if critics were impressed akhtar admits some muslims have complained. >> i get a bum rap from a lot of folks in my pick community for quote, unquote, airing dirty laundry as it were. >> you're writing about highly charged subject matter right now. do you feel like you have to tiptoe around a lot of things? >> i don't. that's why the works seems to have resonance but also has lot of detractors and lot of misunderstanding. >> do you consider yourself a muslim? >> cull curlily yes.

having nondenominational about me there is probably deep islamic cast to my inner life. >> we caught up with akhtar at yado he writer's retreat in saratoga springs new york. you get a lot of work done up here? >> last time i was here, i was here five weeks i finished 180 pages. >> he wrote about his roots in 2012 novel. but for years he says he denied his islamic heritage. >> what part of these plays is you sorting out who you are? >> all of them. all of it. >> and what answers have you found? >> i don't know. the great thing about being an artist you don't have to find any answers. it's also why the pay is limited. >> a graduate of brown and columbia akhtar grew up in milwaukee, wisconsin. his parents both doctors emigrated from pakistan in the '60s. how would you describe your

upbringing? >> it was great. a great place to grow up as long as you loved the green bay packers. which i did. i was outsider because the things that i saw in my house were very different than the things i saw in my friends' houses. i was not an outsider because people made me feel like an outsider. >> his parents hoped akhtar would become a doctor, too. >> my dad made me give him a shot when i was three. toughen this kid up, right? >> his father a cardiologist called when he won the pulitzer. >> he said, the thing you did, i didn't know what it was. but everybody's coming up to me, patients nurses, everybody. do you realize what your son has done? very, very humbling moment. >> in one interview you said your mother came up to you at one point said you got to stop. >> got to stop with this muslim

thing. >> akhtar works as an actor in the hbo film "too big to fail" he played neal kashkari the head of the financial rescue program tarp. >> i'm just speaking for myself here, but i think you need to do what is right for the firm. >> finance plays big role in his own work. how do you mix money and religion in a play? >> in a way you can look at free market capitalism as connections. >> in the invisible hand, an american banker taken hostage in pakistan pays off his ransom by quiching -- dash teaching his captor how to play the market. >> make money he, bad things happen when you're not thinking straight. rest of the market. steady.

>> ayad akhtar says no one voice can speak for american muslims in the theater. but at the moment there is no other. >> do you worry that you could end up being a target in some way? >> you know my agent at times worried about that. if i have that fear at times it's likely paranoia. and to the extent that it's not it is the dual tee and calling of an artist to speak truthfully. that's it. there's no further discussion beyond that. as far as i'm concerned. consequences are what they are. >> osgood: next. not so great expectations. especially if you're thinking of moving an old 401(k) to a fidelity ira. it gives you a wide range of investment options... and the free help you need to make sure your investments fit your goals -- and what you're really investing for. tap into the full power of your fidelity green line.

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it takes guts. [ female announcer ] starburst. unexplainably juicy. >> osgood: a look at the week ahead on our "sunday morning" calendar. monday, the theater hall of fame inducts newest members actors f. murray abraham and blythe danker. thursday is international holocaust remembrance day marking 0th anniversary of the auschwitz death camp in the final months of world war ii. wednesday sees auction in britain of collection of original "star wars" toys expected to go for as much as $150,000. thursday hasty pudding theatric calls presents woman of the year award to comic actress amy

poehler. friday president task force on 21st century policing holds a section at the university of cincinnati. and saturday day for the 42nd annual annie awards for motion picture animation which often predicts the oscar animation winners. financial services firms in the country? or is it 13,000 financial advisors who take the time to say thank you? 'night jim. gonna be a while? i am liz got a little writing to do. ♪ it's why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way.

>> osgood: we all have certain expectations in life. right now we're expecting to hear from our contributor. >> many of us enter a new year and combat the gloom of winter positive thoughts of a sunny future. turns out scientists have discovered that the key to happiness might actually be having low expectations. researchers created a game which people could choose to earn gharib teed amount of money for gamble to win or lose even more

money. while playing participants were repeatedly asked how happy they felt. they expressed significantly more happiness any time they gained a reward that exceeded their expectations. brain scans confirmed this. anyone who won more than she anticipated demonstrated some hot action in her striatum, the area of the brain associated with reward and expectations. to clarify scientists came up with this nifty equation that can predict your happiness. simple, right? if you're an optimist like me this equation raises some important questions like have we been sold a bill of goods about the power of positive thinking? and what do we do with those visualizations inspired by oprah and choprah. i don't want to have to learn to expect less to be happier. i like to enter ex experiences counting on things working out delightfully like a new restaurant or marriage. and it seems like it's almost disrespectful to have low expectations of people, unless you're talking about congress in which case it's down right

american. maybe you're like me and have felt that expecting wonderful things have often summoned them in to existence. i expected to find love after my divorce. and i did. i expected to be a mother at an improbable age. and i am. but perhaps this is sheer luck, or hubris. my husband has long told me that he tries to go through life with no expectations. i always thought that sounded sad but apparently he's on to something, i just don't expect him to be so scientifically sound. it's tough to argue with science or my spouse. but still anticipating the best is a hard lab it to break. so here's my compromise. i resolve to expect legs of others but continue to expect the best of myself. like this is the year i'm going to read the entire dickens oeuvre. now, if you excuse me.

>> osgood: commentary from faith salie. now to bob schieffer in washington for look what's ahead on "face the nation." good morning bob. >> schieffer: good morning charles. we're going down american troops oversees but do we have a strategy to fight tear there's we'll talk to white house chief of staff and republican senn nor john mccain. >> osgood: we'll be watching. next week here on "sunday morning." ♪ >> this is the world's largest musical. >> osgood: slices of life. go! go! go! he's challenging the very fabric of society. in a post cannonball world! was it grilled cheese? guilty! the aquatic delinquency is a larger issue to this ♪ you did it again, didn't you?

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i'm phil matier. i'm mark kelly. there's a >> good morning. it is 7:30. thanks for joining you the. we is -- we have a lot of news in this next hour. >> it's been quite a week for /phreubgs on the national front, from the president's state of the union address to vows for vetoes to congressional republicans to the abortion debate. >> he's a /hr-pbg time state senator, and we talked about the cultural shock from going to california to washington. we're also going to you can -- be talking about a very big issue on the